%OP%BON %OP%WRN %OP%PL70 %OP%DP0 %OP%FM2 %OP%BM2 %OP%LM1 %OP%FO/@D@//CARBUYER/ %CO:A,25,83%%H2%Car price > Less On the road charge Less 17.5%PC% VAT Less 8.3r%PC% car tax Dealer's profit %PC% %H2%> %H2%Dealer's profit £ Basic car price Discount off car price 1 year's tax Tank petrol Plates Mats ?? True costs = %H2%Notes Turn map OFF ie []S Map No Enter total "on the road" car price in slot B1 and "On the road" charge in B2. This spredsheet will automatically take off VAT and Car Sales Tax to give the car dealer's profit [isn't it a lot!] 17.5%PC% profit is the right figure for most manufacturers, eg Ford, Vauxhall even Honda, though expect your dealer to disagree. Enter in C1 the part exchange price, either your estimate or, later, an actual offer. From B6 [dealer's profit] decide by how much you think he should reduce his markup ie. how much he will lose. C3 will then add VAT and Car Tax and show what price reduction you are seeking off the "On the Road" car price and C4 what that price is. C5 shows the difference between car price minus part exchange that you have left to pay. C6 shows remaining dealer's profit. Compare this to B6 and remember the nearer C6 is to zero the less likely you are to be successful in your negotiations. This calculator thus tells you the maximum profit the dealer is likely to make and you can negotiate up to this figure. You are in a better position if you have no part-exchange and depending on your ability could negotiate up to 10 - 12.5%PC% discount. E1 to E6 duplicate C1 to C6, for use in minimum and maximum calculations. Also:- Enter at B10 the discount percentage you want or are offered and C10 will show the revised car price based on the car price in B1. Enter in B13 to B17 the items included in the "On the Road" charge except "Delivery". C13 = B2 - B19 and you can judge how reasonable or otherwise this is. Any comments especially from car dealers would be welcome to:- J Lewis, 56 The Row, Sutton, Ely, Cambs, CB6 2PB 7.2.92 %CO:B,8,58%%V%%R%%LC%10500 %V%%R%%LC%400 %V%%R%%LC%(B1-B2)/1.175 %V%%R%%LC%B3/1.083333 %V%%R%%TC%%DF%17.5 %V%%R%%LC%B4-(B4/(1+(B5/100))) %V%%R%%LC%B4-B6 %V%%R%%TC%%DF%10 %V%%R%%LC%100 %V%%R%%LC%15.5 %V%%R%%LC%10 %V%%R%%LC%25 %V%%R%%LC%0 ------- %V%%R%%LC%sum(B13B17) ------- %CO:C,8,50%%V%%R%%LC%3500 %V%%R%%LC%500 %V%%R%%LC%C2*1.083333*1.175 %V%%R%%LC%$B$1-$C$3 %V%%R%%LC%$C4-$C1 %V%%R%%LC%$B6-$C2 %V%%R%%LC%B1*(1-(B10/100)) %V%%R%%LC%B2-B19 %CO:D,30,42%%H2%< Part exchange value > %H2%< Profit reduction required > %H2% Total car price reduction %H2% Reduced car price %H2% Balance I pay %H2%Remaining dealer's profit %H2%< Revised total car price = Delivery charge %CO:E,12,12%%V%%R%%LC%3900 %V%%R%%LC%600 %V%%R%%LC%E2*1.083333*1.175 %V%%R%%LC%$B$1-E$3 %V%%R%%LC%E4-E1 %V%%R%%LC%B6-E2