Collected messages concerning the Cambridge Z88 laptop computer. These were retrieved from the "old Laptops Bulletin Board" before the major restructuring of 5-May-1989. The Cambridge Z88 is discussed on the Laptops RoundTable Bulletin Board [Page 655;1] in Category 4. ------------------------------------------------------------ ************ Mon Dec 19, 1988 MORTIMER [.^Dave^.] Sub: Cambridge Z88 - Basic programming plus This Topic is reserved for discussion of programming and disassembly of the operating system for the Cambridge Z88 laptop from Sir Clive Sinclair. See Topic 10 here and the file Z88-BB1.TXT [or .ARC] for more Z88 data. ------------ Mon Nov 07, 1988 PWHEELER My last message may have been garbaged by line noise. Gist of it was that, to convert a disassembler to the Z-88, I need to know how to do the equivalent of a PEEK. The manual is very obscure on this point. And I have been unable to obtain any other info on BBC Basic. Has anyone either seen or discovered the way to do a PEEK on the Z-88?? Phil ------------ Wed Nov 09, 1988 C.FENN The equivelant command for PEEK would be VEC for VECTOR, I've been able to PEEK into the memory using this but I can't recall exactly the way it is used (big help huh?) lets see VEC=(address),hmmmmm.... ------------ Wed Nov 09, 1988 C.FENN (PHIL) try this; VEC=0 FOR I=1 TO 131072(OR WHATEVER) ADDRESS=I ADDVAL=VEC?ADDRESS IF ADDVAL>32 OR ADDVAL<127 THEN PRINT CHR$(ADDVAL) NEXT I I hope this will help, LOGON LOGON ------------ Mon Nov 28, 1988 PWHEELER Chesley -- Here are some commands which will work in BASIC *DELETE FILE.EXT or *ERASE FILE.EXT will kill FILE.EXT *NAME PROGRAM will show PROGRAM as the name in activities *CLI will execute a CLI sequence from Basic *RENAME FILE1.EXT FILE2.EXT will rename FILE1.EXT to FILE2.EXT I still have not found a DIR or FILES command which will work from Basic. The in-line assembler is real. Uses Z80 nemonics. Typical syntax is 100 P%=Z% 'Z a dimensioned integer array; sves memory for code 110 [ 120 OPT 2 'see manual, page 165 130 .ORG 'sets address for USR call 140 PUSH AF :LD A,(HL) 150 OUT (&BA),A : POP AF 160 RET 170 ] This is garbage code to illustrate the syntax -- and is based on a ROM dumping program published in the Z88 EPROM, an English user's group publication. It does work; I've modified the program for my own use and it seems to operate quite well. I have not done any "real" M/L programming because I don't yet dig Z80 nemonics and code (use 8085 mostly) -- and (very important) the system ROM calls are not published, sort of like not having BDOS call data in a PC, or ROM calls in the Model 100. Very tedious to do any significant M/L coding without that info! Phil ------------ Mon Feb 20, 1989 W.WOOD1 I have sownloaded a couple of basic programs from this bulletin board and have run them in the z88 by using the CLI feature. However, how does one convert them to basic so that they can be run immediately instead of what appears to be listing them first and then running. Secondly, can they be saved with a .BAS extension? I'm sure there are simple answers, but I haven't been able to find them in the z88 instruction manual. Thanks n advance for anyone's help. By the way, my programming ex- perience is limited to a little basic experience some years ago. ------------ Mon Feb 20, 1989 C.FENN yes indeed; after you have loaded a program into BASIC via CLI you can save back to RAM in tokenised form example:SAVE"PROGRAM.BAS" this will save it to RAM. If you had a directory set up & named GAMES you would save your file like this; SAVE"GAMES/PROGRAM.BAS". To get your tokenised program loaded back in;LOAD"PROGRAM.BAS" or LOAD"PROGRAM*" as you can also use a wild card in the name. To bring a tokenised program in & run it instantly;CHAIN"PROGRAM.BAS". And finally to load in a file from any device or directory on the machine;LO.":*//PROGRAM.BAS". Notice you can abbreviate many key words in Z88 BBC BASIC LO.=LOAD,CH.=CHAIN etc.. After you have saved your tokenised program there is no need for the CLI "ASCII" version unless you want to edit. Good Luck! Chris .^Dave^. ------------ Thu Nov 17, 1988 C.FENN A national Z88 user group is forming and will publish a Z88 specific newsletter "The Pipeline" which is due out soon. Contact : CLUB Z88 29722 Hult Rd., Colton OR. 97017 ------------ Thu Dec 08, 1988 C.FENN Has anyone discovered how to use the OSCLI command? It sounds interesting but I can't figure it out. ------------ Fri Dec 09, 1988 PWHEELER I've just uploaded FINANCE.Z88, financial analysis for the Z88. Seems to work OK. OSCLI = Op Sys Cmd Line Interpreter? I would use the syntax of the CLI cmds (e.g. per pp. 198-201 of manual). There was sometyhing on this in one of the Eprom newsletters. Hmmmm. Says *CLI #F will go to filer from Basic. Might try OSCLS #F and see if it will do the same. FYI -- FINANCE.Z88 is file #2397. Phil p.s. -- Thinking of starting a Laptops BBS here in L.A. I would then move my Model 100 and MS-DOS laptop software and support there -- and use it as a vehicle for support of the Z88. My 30 Meg hard disk will hold gobs of laptop software. And none of the commercial services show any interest in the Z88 orphan. Any thoughts, anyone?? ------------ Sat Dec 10, 1988 C.FENN Phil, LA is not too far away for me to call, and it would be nice to have a better focal point than a sub topic in a generic catagory. I think it is important to have a place for people to exchange ideas etc. If you do decide to start a M100,DOS,Z88 BBS you can count on my support. ------------ Sun Dec 11, 1988 PWHEELER Thanks for the input, Chris. Still in the thinking stages. But I once operated a PB R/CPM and enjoyed it. I've got the bug to Sysop again -- and it would provide focal support for the Z88. Will be interesting to see what the AZ group is going to do also. Maily, the tech data we get for the machine will really determine how much we can really develop useful applications. Need that data!! Phil s ------------ Sun Dec 11, 1988 PWHEELER Just left D-H-D.Z88 in the Libraries. Hex-Dec-Hex number base conversion for the Z88. Phil ------------ Wed Dec 14, 1988 EZRA I'd love to see a BBS here in LA; I'd even be willing to donate some hardware to the cause. I've got a Prometheus 1200 modem and a 2-floppy Compaq Portable gathering dust at the moment. But as a former sysop, heavily involved in the development of Fido, I'd strongly urge *against* any MSDOS activity whatsoever. As soon as word gets out (and it will) that you've got *any* MSDOS files to download, the downloaders will tie up the system and choke off activity in the message areas. ------------ Wed Dec 14, 1988 PWHEELER You have a very good point re MS-DOS, Ezra. And there is enuff support for that crowd anyway. Of course, the quandry will be that with only Z-88 support, the user base at this time would be pretty small Maybe non-DOS lappers is the segment. BTW -- I am thinking of Fido as the host software (since I set up a private system that way a few years back. Any thoughts on that, pro or con? And thanks for the volunteer of harware. support!! Phil ------------ Fri Dec 16, 1988 C.FENN We'll see ya there (Phil) /s ------------ Fri Dec 16, 1988 PWHEELER Good! BTW -- expecting mucho Z88 tech data next week; more later (and longer msg at home!). Phil ------------ Sun Dec 18, 1988 PWHEELER FLASH: I've pretty much got a BBS supporting the Z88 and other laptops set up. It will be a bit sparse of files for the time being, but that will improve over the holidays. Support and programs will be provided for the Z88, M100 (and family) PC lappers (laptop-specific stuff only) and CP/M lappers (less, since I don't yet have one). Main objective is support to Z88. Hours: Whenever I am not using the machine (Z-150 with 30 Meg HD) for emting else. BAud rates: 300/1200/2400 (but I have not tried 2400 yet). Location: Torrance, CA (L.A. Area) Phone: (213) 370-2754 Status: Open and free; will stay open if not abused. Active status started 12/15/88. Not many files. But it sure won't be crowded!*l Phil ------------ Sun Dec 18, 1988 MORTIMER [.^Dave^.] Phil: Wanted to wish you and all the Cambridge Z88 devotees the very best on your new BBS venture. Over the past months I've been observing and counting the Z88 interest as measured by BB activity [very poor measure] and the download of Z88 program files. It would appear that there are three members of the Laptop RT with an active interest in the Z88. Keep in mind that every file submitted by members is downloaded by one or more of the sysops, so that increases the "Accessed" count accordingly. With your help, the Laptops RoundTable will continue to provide the support for the Z88 as best we can. For the moment, Topic and Library space is about all that we can offer. Trust you'll understand that there just is not enough activity to justify the cost of opening a Z88 specific Category and/or Library. The Tandy 200 and Hewlett-Packard 110 members [plus who?] could have at least as legitimate a claim for space. As you frolic in Torrance with Zee Z88 Zinging BBS we wish you the best and hope that you don't forget us amidst the frolicing. Encouragingly ... the Laptops way ... .^Dave^. ------------ Tue Dec 20, 1988 PWHEELER OK, all you Z88 guys, I now have two new DOC's: "Using Your Z88" ($24.95) And the "Z88 Developers Notes" ($160.00; whew!). The former is quite good, and has lots on Basic programming for the Z88 -- using PROC to get structured programming. The latter is a gold mine: How the ASMbler works; available pseudo ops; system calls; lots of sampel code; how peek and poke; etc. If you really want to do M/L, these "notes" are invaluable. Spiral bound, well- written and 307n pages, all good. I plan to put up files on my BBS, using the goodies I am learning. Phone is 213-370-2754, in case my earlier message on this got archived. Not much there, yet -- but in time there should be! Phil ------------ Tue Dec 20, 1988 PWHEELER Dave, I've never especially agitated for a special area here; that was someone else as I recall. I have had several folks into my BBS who are Z88 users who do not use GEnie -- probalbly from some BBS PR that Chris has done for me (he is part of the "Timex/Sinclair crowd). In fact, I've kinda missed having a board with all that entails; so now I do (I had an RCP/M back when Hard Disks were a rarity; now I've got 30 Megs to play with: luxury). Of course, I am still supporting the M100/102/200 at my usual stand, just not nearly so intensively. BTW -- Merry Chrismas, Happy New Year, and all of that! Best of all, Phil ------------ Wed Dec 21, 1988 PWHEELER All the Z88 crowd: At last reports I noted that my Laptops Support BBS (focusing on the Z88) was operating at 300/1200 baud. Now two users have verified performance at 2400 baud; so if you have such a modem, you can save on the LD phone bill by using the higher rate. Software base is still a bit skimpy, but now we have several goodies orthe Z88 -- and some stuff based on new info from the "Z88 Developers' Notes" is now being generated, with more to follow. Again, the phone number is (213) 370-2754 . Hours approx 24 hours per day (down some for maintenance), and it's an open system. Phil ------------ Mon Jan 02, 1989 F.GRADY HELP! All efforts to address a normal modem (not Cambridge's) with Z88 have failed. I have breakout boxes, etc. and many cables, but nothing works. (I CAN exchange files null-modem style with my PC however -- it's just the MODEM I can't shake hands with.) Any help out there? I've made a cable to Z88 manual specs, but it doesn't work with my modem (with or without CD true). ------------ Mon Jan 02, 1989 F.GRADY I have PC-link for Z88, which translates PD files to Lotus or Wordstar -- does the Mac-Link Z88 utility perform similar file translations to Mac programs, e.g., Word and/or Excel? (I work with both Macs and PCs). ------------ Tue Jan 03, 1989 F.GRADY Does anyone have any suggestions for modem/terminal programs (preferably Basic language) for use with Z88? Cambridge has a Z-Term package for $119, of unknown quality. My needs are simple. A Model 100 program would work, if it included no ROM calls. -- Frank Grady ------------ Wed Jan 04, 1989 PWHEELER Frank -- check my BBS for modem cable design (info from U.K.). M100 BA comm program would not work; most use M100-unique capabilities. A Z88 comm program is a long-term project of mine. Z-TERM is well worrth owning; again see files/msgs in my BBS for more iscussion. 213-370-2754. 300/1200/2400 8N1 Now have about 45 menu entries for Z88 to be downloaded. Phil ------------ Wed Jan 04, 1989 C.FENN F.GRADY, like Phil suggested I think the right cable config. should get you going ok. I've used my Z88 with 2 diff. modems with no trouble. Avatex 1200, and a Tandy phone modem 300 baud. /s ------------ Fri Jan 06, 1989 C.FENN F.GRADY, Looks like I spoke too soon!, I hadn't had any problem until my new POCKET MODEM came in. My autodia-logon CLI's would no longer work. At least it will dial (if I pick up the rec. first) Hmmmmm.. it's back to the drawing board. Thanks for the INFO, Chris ------------ Tue Jan 10, 1989 EZRA The Mac link translates to MacWrite/Excel formats. ------------ Wed Jan 11, 1989 J.CASPER F. Grady, I use the Mac-Link with no problems. It is well worth the investment, though it is a little slow on long files. It uses a point and click method of selecting files. BTW, it uses the same ROM in the Z88 as is used for the PC-Link, so you do not have to change the ROM in the Z88 when switching between PC and Mac. ------------ Sat Jan 14, 1989 PWHEELER Hmmm...that info re MAC-Link and PC-Link having a common ROM is i interesting. I haven't been here much lately do to: 1) a noisy node (about 1 in 6 lls give me a noise fre line; and 2) Building up my Z88 BBS and its software base (213- 370-2754, by the way). We are up to about 80 Z88 programs and files, including about 35 downloaded from the U.K. with an amazingly clean phone connection. Among the latter is a vital BASIC patch that lets you edit program lines *in Basic*, a neglected capability in the ROM ware. New domestic goodies include a Z88 isassembler and a (still being optimized) Z88 xmodem upload/download/ autodial program; also numerous small utilities for programming and understanding the machine. Phil ------------ Sat Jan 14, 1989 PWHEELER Just uploaded here is Z88TRM.CLI, the ascii form of my xmodem program for the Z88 -- at least as it exists today. This is a Basic program, and currently too slow for my taste, at least at 1200 baud. But I will be adding some M/L subroutines to get it to a reasonable speed. Latest version will always be available on my BBS (current one is second today!), and I will upload major new versions here, phone lines willing (took me two tries to get this one here!). Feedback, comments, bug reports (Uggh!) will be appreciated. Ah yes -- it will download binary Z88 files (e.g., BAS tokenized programs), and upload them, as well. Phil ------------ Sun Jan 15, 1989 PWHEELER I'm now (assuming the connection stays quiet) going to upload a new version of Z88TRM. User interface has been improved. More to the point, I have added some machine language subroutines -- and acheived a speed increase of over 30% at 1200 baud. Still not wonderful, but getting to be usable. Besides, I suspect this is the only free xmodem comm program for the Z88. Also: Has some interesting usage of Z88 Basic's unique features, including "indirection operators", embedding M/L code using the integral assembler (note the *essential* handling of the stack going in, to prevent it being paged out by the OS!), and file addressing of the comm port. NOte that this Basic program WILL handle binary Z88 files; have not tried it with other types of binary files. Z88TRM is free, but not public domain. It can be downloaded, used, redistributed, cadged, whatever -- but if distirbuted, it must be fully and under this name. And NO fee may be charged. Phil ------------ Sun Jan 15, 1989 PWHEELER To ALL Z88 users: There seems to be some confusion (my fault, no doubt!) regarding the phone number of my Z88 BBS. I'mk getting computers calling on my voice line at odd hours. BBS phone number is: 213-370-2754 Voice number is: 213-371-2373 (call if you are having trouble getting in or doing log-on or whatever -- but only between 7am and midnight, Pacific time, please). I'm leaving this message here, because an earlier message here is where I mixed up the two numbers. Phil ------------ Mon Jan 16, 1989 PWHEELER Just uploaded to the Sftware Libraries here is EPCAT.CLI. This will ctalog in detail an EPROM in Slot 3 of your Z88. Tells you how long files are and how much space is used and remaining. Also -- an interesting use of sophisticated Z88 Basic: Procedures, Indirection operators (similar to peek and poke, but more powerful ) and the built-in Z88 assembler. Another goodie from Torrance Laptops (Z88) BBS Phil ------------ Thu Jan 19, 1989 D.BENNETT10 F.Grady, Here are the modem pinouts that I use. They are a bit different. They work for me, maybe they will for you. Z88 Modem 2 ------- 2 3 ------- 3 4 ------- 4 5 ------- 5 7 ------- 7 8 ------- 8 + 20 9 ------- 6 I hope this helps you. Dave ------------ Thu Jan 19, 1989 D.BENNETT10 C.Fenn, Thanks for starting this topic here on GEnie. and for all your articles on the Z88 in the Hacker. The hacker has been my primary source of information on the Z88 and now there is GEnie. Dave ------------ Sat Jan 21, 1989 P.JACKSON7 HI, If there's room for another Phill, I'm interested. I have a couple of other laptops, a M100 and a T1000 and have an evaluation model of the Z88 which I suspect is THE travelling writer's computer. I have a couple of programs for travellers I wrote for the M100, currency conversion and another to do gear tables for bicycle tourists. As soon as I can convert them and retype I'll upload. Gota couple of questions. I set the leading character symbol to the $ but every time I use it, it comes up as the pound sign. Am I missing something obvious? Also, has anyone any idea of what the lifetime will be for the rubber keycover sheet? Are they replacable? Phill (2) Jackson ------------ Sun Jan 22, 1989 C.FENN Hi Dave! good to have you around. Greetings to H.A.T.S. too. I'm glad you've joined us in Z88Ville(Ha!) Looking forward to see some Z88 msgs.(from anybody else but me,Ha! You should stop by on Phil Wheeler's BBS too. ------------ Sun Jan 22, 1989 C.FENN Phill, I've been curious to how long the rubber keyboard will last. It doesn't seem like it would be too hard to replace. On longetivity I've been using mine for over a year & no visible signs of wear and it has many miles on it. This is the first NON-STANDARD keyboard I've ever liked. It's kinda like wearing comfy old slippers. I don't quite understand why your leading chars. wont come up "$" if you specified it. Hmmmmmm...... ------------ Sat Jan 28, 1989 D.BENNETT10 Chris, I will have to think about calling Phil's BBS for more Z88 support. I think that the long distance charges may be high since I am on the east coast. Dave ------------ Sat Jan 28, 1989 C.FENN I know what you mean Dave, luckily NV is right next door to CA so I can visit often enough. I'd be interested in any QL-Z88 projects you may have going on or any tips on trsfr etc.. I haven't done anything to connect to my QL yet or even the MAC I use at work.(I better get on the stick huh?) SeeYa, Chris ------------ Sun Jan 29, 1989 D.BENNETT10 Chris, I have uploaded information on Z88 to QL transfer into the software library. I used xmodem. I tried ascii but got messages on lines being too long. I use the Q L program Q_Link. Superbasic programs also work well if you you want to filter out some unwanted characters that the Z88 transmits. But I find that Q_Link is much faster. Dave ------------ Mon Jan 30, 1989 C.FENN Thanks for the info.Dave. Will give it a try when can. Chris ------------ Wed Feb 01, 1989 T.REA Anyone out there have a Z-88, the little mini from Britain invented by Sinclair and marketed by Cambridge. Useful for planes, etc. All built in software but I need to know if anyone is making it work well with a Mac. ------------ Sat Feb 04, 1989 PWHEELER On the $ for leading char problem: You have to reset that for each new document you load into Pipedeam -- and also things like nowrap, clumn width, wrap width, etc. NOW -- I have just uploaded what I hope will be the final version of the Z88COM xmodem program to the File Library. This one operates at full xmodem speed, does autodial and will logon automatically. You will need Z88COM.DOC, PHONE.LOG, and either Z88COM.BAS or Z88COM.CLI. The former is binary and the latter ascii form. this program is over 2/3 machine language -- a good example of the power in the Z88's BC Basic (all development was done with the resident ROM software of the Z88). This and other applications and utilities are supported (and provided) at my Z88Support BBS in the Los Angeles area. Call (213) 370-2754. Set parameters at 300/1200/2400 baud, no parity, one stop bit. This BBS is now the on-line home of the U.S. Z88 users' group and the first domestic Z88 newsletter, Pipe*Line. But this system and all its areas are open to all callers. There is no membership charge or requirement for uploads (tho they are surely appreciated!). Phil ------------ Sun Feb 05, 1989 PWHEELER (This describes a new version of Z88COM -- Version 2.3. It is not yet available on GEnie, but can be obtained at (213) 370-2754. It will appear here in the future after more on-line experience with it). NEW Z88COM (Version 2.3) Version 2.3 adds upload of Pipedream files (no linefeeds need be added) to the message base. Just have them on your Filer menu, saved as plain text, and send them. Blank lines (as in the second line above) are padded to avoid premature termination in systems like here wheer a blank line is taken as the end of the message. will let you compose messages off line and upload them -- a potential time savings. See Z88COM.DOC for info on customizing line pacing for use with other systems. Phil ------------ Sun Feb 12, 1989 J.KRUEGER2 Hi, Z88 users. Real glad to find this topic section! Our company, Freedoms' Laboratories, Inc., is including a Z88 in a training program we sell. Each participant who buys our training package gets a Z88. So there should be a lot more Z88s around. I will include the BBS# for the Z88 BBS in Ca. in the machine as an auto dial #. We are new to the Z88 and are interested in having someone out there do some programming for us, since our initial reasons for choosing the Z88 are related to field use by trainees. We will require some special applications. NOTE: FLI supports a BBS called THE ELECTRONIC OFFICE, it is an experiment in ERE,(electronic real estate), and has many companies sharing it's expenses. It is free to callers. FLI uses it's office section as support for it's training candidates that use the Z88, as well as for it's other office stuff. The BBS doesn't support 8 line screens yet and we dread having to rebuild the board to do so. Cambridge has informed us of a new VT100 term program they are developing that will have scrolling features. It looks like it wont be ready fast enough for us so we will have to rebuild the board to have pauses at 8 lines. PS: It's great to hear about the Z88 board in Ca. and maybe there is a way for our BBS to share in on the good work being done there. Like have an east coast Z88 section on our BBS, if anyone out there is interested in being a SIG we would support it free of charge. There could be an exchange of info etc. for east coast Z88s. (cut down on the phone bills) IF THERE ARE ANY EAST COAST Z88s THAT ARE INTERESTED PLEASE LEAVE WORD ON "THE ELECTRONIC OFFICE/BBS" 212-529-8789, since I don't get on GEnie more than once a week. REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE JUST BEGUN TO REBUILD THE BOARD FOR 8 LINES, so if you call know that. If you are running a VT100 term program and have color our board supports both, if not TTY is available. Apologies for such a long message, just thought all of this might be of interest. Will make it shorter in the future. Jack ------------ Sun Feb 12, 1989 C.FENN J.KRUEGER2, d to see the Z88 is being put to work! I use mine at work along side a MAC II as sort of a physical DA (TSR to IBMers). I also run the company database on a IBM where I can routinely export a file suitable to be loaded in straight to DIARY on the Z88 (falling in to their proper date slots) that way I can make use of DIARY's criteria listing. What you have going sounds very interesting. I don't know of anyone off hand that is in a position to tackle your programming needs, but I'll try to get the word out. There is a national club forming in support of the Z88 (Club Z88) along with a companion newsletter (PIPE*LINE) that you may be interested in. I'll post the specs. next visit. Chris ------------ Tue Feb 14, 1989 J.KRUEGER2 Thanx for your assist, we can use every bit in our new project with the Z88. We at FLI are not programmers, we invent ways to use new technology. And since we have been running an all Mac office for the past 3 years any programming interests here are at step one for the Z88. Later, Jack ------------ Wed Feb 15, 1989 D.NEEDLE I guess most of that got lost... summary - I have a Z88 and have for a while. I would like more technical info and will call the mentioned when I get the chance. I noticed a reference earlier use of OSCLI - this is a way to use a CLI call as part of lti-statement line in BASIC. You can learn some interesting ff about the innards of the BASIC by finding about BBC Basic for e BBC Micro made by Acorn in England. Z88 Basic is based on it. Owen ------------ Wed Feb 15, 1989 P.JACKSON7 Hello, Recently T.REA asked if anyone was using a Z88 with a Mac. I am using one with a Mac SE and it seems to work very well. I am using the convert- module called the z88 to Mac Link. Take notes at meetings, come back to office, plug cable from SE to Z88 and open the application on the Mac and do the []L to activate the link on the Z88. I get the usual Mac screen with two windows, one showing the Z88 ram module and the other whatever Mac folder I want. I select the file then pick the translation wanted, usually Pipedream > MacWrite and send it over. Not instantious, but reasonably fast. Italics, Underline and bold facing carry over OK. Pipedream SS to Mac Excell works too, but s l o w l y. If I was only using text, I think that a simple null modem cable sending the plain text Pipedream can save with would be enough; I always do my formatting on the Mac anyway. The little machine is great for quiet undistracting notetaking and it has attracted a lot of attention at our meetings. Hope this helpls Phill Jackson ------------ Thu Feb 16, 1989 C.FENN Phill,I saw te Mac-Link at Comdex & it looked pretty slick. I hope to have it soon myself to use at work. Thanks for the info. Chris ------------ Sun Feb 26, 1989 D.BENNETT10 To SYSOP: I just uploaded a Camel game for the Z88. I am not sure whether this is public domain or not. It was typed in from a book. If it is not suitable you can delete it. ------------ Sun Feb 26, 1989 MORTIMER [.^Dave^.] David: Will publish. BEST is to include credit to Creative Computing, which I think you left off. However, it appears that you didn't write up the entire game this time. You bring back memories --- first program that I ever uploaded for publication was WUMPUS.100, back in Aug/Sep of 1983. THAT was taken from Creative Computing's BASIC Games as well, but had to be heavily modified. It's right here now too! Bermembering ... the Laptops way ... .^Dave^. ------------ Sun Feb 26, 1989 C.FENN Great!,Dave (Bennett) it's nice to see more Z88 stuff around here. Nice little game too. Chris ------------ Mon Feb 27, 1989 D.BENNETT10 Chris, Thanks, It is one of my favorite all text games. Dave ------------ Mon Feb 27, 1989 D.BENNETT10 ^Dave^ Yes, It was almost character for character from the book. I think I added a help screen and broke up the instructions into 8 lines. Thanks for putting it into the database. David ------------ Wed Mar 08, 1989 J.KRUEGER2 Here at FLI, we've been encluding a Z88 and their modem with a training that we sell. We've had to send back 2 of those modems so far and able to explain reason for malfunction. Has anyone else had problems with the modem sold by Cambridge here in the states? ------------ Wed Mar 08, 1989 J.KRUEGER2 Here at FLI, we've been encluding a Z88 and their modem with a training that we sell. We've had to send back 2 of those modems so far and able to explain reason for malfunction. Has anyone else had problems with the modem sold by Cambridge here in the states? ------------ Sun Apr 02, 1989 J.KRUEGER2 The modem problems that we had, related to previous message, stemed from a short in the modem cable in the fitting at the modem end. There is some electronic stuff in that fitting to make the modem compatible with the Z88 and the bundle is wraped with paper tape. If our problem wasn't a rarity and others have also had some problem with the DATATRONICS, Discovery 1200P, Port Modem this info might be of some value. Just open the fitting and separate the wires and then re-tape with "real" tape and everything should be fine. ----------------------------------- Prepared for GEnie's Laptops RoundTable 5/12/89